tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post5273778348943605872..comments2024-03-28T07:00:12.226-04:00Comments on Romance Novels for Feminists: When An Artist's Abusive Behavior Call Your Love of Their Art into QuestionJackie C. Hornehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-1002699817428796222020-07-24T00:04:38.920-04:002020-07-24T00:04:38.920-04:00I think is bad what's he did, but at same time...I think is bad what's he did, but at same time I want to finish series of book, I wish there was something that can be done as compensation for those who were abuse and used, such a shame, the books and stories are really good. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-8974179996809139952018-03-29T16:20:59.944-04:002018-03-29T16:20:59.944-04:00And on the "Best of 2015" list, too. To ...And on the "Best of 2015" list, too. To which I've also added a warning note.Jackie C. Hornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-16628725653460549762018-03-29T16:18:00.805-04:002018-03-29T16:18:00.805-04:00Thanks, everyone, for chiming in. I appreciate you...Thanks, everyone, for chiming in. I appreciate your thoughts and opinions.<br /><br />Hassell's books appear on RNFF's "Best of 2016" and "Best of 2017" lists. I have kept those books on those lists, but have added language about the accusations lodged against Hassell, as well as a link to the detailed discussion of the accusations at THE SALT MINES' "The Santino Hassell Debacle", before the descriptions of each of the books on those lists.Jackie C. Hornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-52633127890953709352018-03-29T12:17:40.440-04:002018-03-29T12:17:40.440-04:00Listen, if you have your doubts it's just beca...Listen, if you have your doubts it's just because you don't feel angry enough about it. You're horrified and disgusted, but not personally involved, so keep your reviews adding a little statement. It's your blog, and those reviews have not been easy to write.<br />If you were really really angry, and just hate this has happened, and seeing red about it? You would have no doubt. You'll erase not only those reviews but any mention of that name in your blog.<br />That's at least what I would do. It would all depend not on the issue itself but of my own emotions about it. Bona Caballerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08999745390738959715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-16721896563395993422018-03-15T19:48:50.813-04:002018-03-15T19:48:50.813-04:00I think different responses are appropriate for di...I think different responses are appropriate for different sites. GoodReads is (as far as I'm concerned) a site for reviewing books, not for passing judgements on the authors (except insofar as dodgy morals carry across into the motivations of the characters). So I find it bizarre that reviewers should downgrade their rating of a book from 5 stars to 1 star. I would understand reviewers deciding not to read any more by SH, but not changing their opinion of whether it works as art. The book is the book. <br /><br />But bloggers can and do talk about more than the book - they talk about the context of the book. And the context for the creation of SH's works appears murky - so that's absolutely fair game for comment. Topping and tailing an earlier thought piece in the light of updated info seems sensible.<br />Georgiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10593853562772898834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-2247116162224676242018-03-14T12:02:21.280-04:002018-03-14T12:02:21.280-04:00I agree with Rhode Red. I think the problem here ...I agree with Rhode Red. I think the problem here is misrepresentation for the sake of profiting. It's not like the Bronte sisters who purposely misrepresented themselves because women just couldn't get published at that time. This is a man who purposely lied to make money - not to "cheat" a corrupt system, he did it because he knew it would make him money since it was the cause of the time. I hope that makes sense.<br />This reminds me of the guy who wrote the book about charity work in the Middle East which turned out to have not happened (I don't remember the details so forgive me if I am off a little). It's offensive to use someone else's pain and need to profit.<br />Now if he hadn't misrepresented himself and turned out just to be an A-hole, then I would feel that if you like his work, then separate the artist from the work. I have to do that a lot with all kinds of artists. However, if the work is part of the manipulation then it needs to be included as part of the problem.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09398802177166008567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-87097728830300128402018-03-14T11:32:32.656-04:002018-03-14T11:32:32.656-04:00Option #2 makes sense, for all the reasons you giv...Option #2 makes sense, for all the reasons you give. Thank you for a thoughtful post. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-43813521842592117612018-03-14T08:23:57.624-04:002018-03-14T08:23:57.624-04:00I would go with option one for two reasons: first ...I would go with option one for two reasons: first and primarily, SH stole large elements of their stories and dialog from real life people who had not given permission for their painful and deeply private confessions to a person they thought was a man they were romantically involved with. Some have posted receipts, others testimony. It’s not ok to enjoy art that is essentially raping its subject. Would you watch a movie made by a peeping tom? Secondly, to my knowledge nearly all of Hassell’s books have been withdrawn from publication, including the Cyberlove and Boroughs series. The mainstream publisher of the Barons series is not publishing the final two in its series and is being lobbied to retract the first three. Hassell has broken Patreon’s terms of service so that account may soon be shut down. Amazon is giving refunds for all SH works, no matter how long ago they were published or by whom. <br /><br />Also, your column is written in such a way that it might seem identity is the biggest problem SH had. This leads to readers saying they don’t care about pen names or gender, they just want the books. However in this case, identity (what appears to be a straight, healthy cis woman who is married posing as a divorced bi guy with cancer and two kids) is the least harmful part of SH’s betrayal of readers. Homophobic remarks in a genre centered on LGBT people happened. Financial fraud across state lines appears to have occurred. And emotional harm, including intense sexual harassment happened. There are also allegations that SH’s husband (who was the face of the brand) had sexual affairs with story sources who were under the impression he was a single, bi man in a relationship with them. So that’s another deep betrayal, especially as his wife then used their words in her books. <br /><br />If you want to remind readers bad people can make good art, there are other ways to do that which do not continue to insult the victims. Rhode Redhttp://twitter.com/rhoderedpvdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-28968681225290118262018-03-14T06:57:51.322-04:002018-03-14T06:57:51.322-04:00I go for option two. I go for option two. Teri Anne Stanleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15500524348027951939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-28459861494707983062018-03-14T06:23:03.894-04:002018-03-14T06:23:03.894-04:00Yes I'd go with option 2. With an addendum.
Sa...Yes I'd go with option 2. With an addendum.<br />Sadly riptide have their own behavioural issues now. How long can they lastgillettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09328022754007832855noreply@blogger.com