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http://www.o...Adam:<br /><br />Adam:<br /><br />I found the image here:<br />http://www.ourstoriesuntold.com/rape-is-rape-how-the-culture-of-shaming-stigma-victim-blaming-is-hurting-us/<br /><br />Not sure if they are the original source...<br />Jackie C. Hornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-11403382067197869772016-04-05T03:56:30.117-04:002016-04-05T03:56:30.117-04:00Hi Jackie,
Love the blog! I was wondering if I co...Hi Jackie,<br /><br />Love the blog! I was wondering if I could have permission to use the Things that Cause Rape photo for my online media school project<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Adam Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01687664971538787689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-91775454573252452182014-09-11T13:32:12.895-04:002014-09-11T13:32:12.895-04:00..I'm intrigued at your concept of challenging.....I'm intrigued at your concept of challenging both extreme concepts about romance; but <br />while I may be being obtuse, I do find it hard to relate to the idea that women having a need for romance isn't part of the patriarchal ideology, where men have adventures and <br />women live vicariously. If romance novels challenge this, well and good; but unless I've been unlucky in the ones I've seen, they don't seem to, and the romantic themes in YA<br />still seem to depict girls basing their whole lives round a man - ie, 'Twilight' and 'The Mortal Instruments'. Sorry to comment as 'anonymous', by the way; my wordpress log in has a glitch in it, my pen name is Lucinda Elliot. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-76020783616796944102014-03-24T10:38:01.321-04:002014-03-24T10:38:01.321-04:00I remember being dismayed at fourteen (that was ev...I remember being dismayed at fourteen (that was even before a boyfriend threatened to rape me on the grounds I didn't really mean no) when reading Georgette Heyer's 'Devil's Cub' where the so called hero threatens to rape the heroine, and it's treated as OK, because she tries to shoot him (sadly the gun misfires) and he falls in love with her spirit, apparently. She soon forgives him, even though he tries to throttle her at another time. This book is still receiving uncritical five star reviews on amazon and blogs of Heyer fans (some of whom excuse him on the grounds that 'he thought she was a woman of easy virtue'), and seems to be part of this regressive rape fantasy resurgence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-32402169850242248142012-12-02T21:38:28.560-05:002012-12-02T21:38:28.560-05:00Liberty:
Yes, I do think that these authors captu...Liberty:<br /><br />Yes, I do think that these authors capture the victims' reactions well. I would have been happier, though, if the narratives around them suggested that such self-blaming actions were not simply natural, but a result of the social discourses around them (as you point out so well). Or in other words, that while the characters could be depicted reacting this way, it would be great if the story constructed around them around could call the "rightness" of such a reaction into question. Perhaps a bit too much to ask from such early examples...Jackie C. Hornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-63920065935562811172012-12-02T14:17:25.485-05:002012-12-02T14:17:25.485-05:00In the 70s, 80s, and 90s I was politically active ...In the 70s, 80s, and 90s I was politically active in getting stronger rape laws and organizing "Take Back the Night" rallies. Though the early books did not handle the heroes and their reactions well, they did handle many of the "victims" reactions well. <br /><br />Even in the most horrendous of cases, rape victims did tend to blame themselves. That is what women of that generation had been taught from early childhood. For heaven's sake, don't let a bra strap show, don't let your slip show, sit with your feet and knees together.<br /><br />Hopefully, we are sending better messages to our daughters, but when I read the news and the outrageous statements of politicians, defense attorneys, and friends of the rapists, I am afraid that the public still doesn't understand . . . "Whatever we wear, where ever we go, yes means yes and no means NO!"Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11759024297549853514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-61926341459012484692012-11-30T21:07:58.140-05:002012-11-30T21:07:58.140-05:00I'm not that familiar with the M&B/Harlequ...I'm not that familiar with the M&B/Harlequins that predate my own adolescent reading. How fascinating to think of post WWI books with boyish heroes! Will have to try and get a hold of a few of these.<br /><br />You're right to remind me to be more specific when I write about masculinity. Perhaps the "rightness/naturalness" of an aggressive, dominant, post WWII masculinity, rather than simply "traditional masculinity"?<br /><br />And thanks for sharing the note about one of the Boon brothers and his ideas about what women wanted in their heroes. Makes the idea of the books reflecting not only female, but also male anxieties probable...Jackie C. Hornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-22143898241511192792012-11-30T20:57:00.306-05:002012-11-30T20:57:00.306-05:00Who is doing the constructing? Society at the time...<i>Who is doing the constructing? Society at the time?</i><br /><br />Yes, society, which probably mostly means men in this context but as you suggest, women writers can mirror it "even while working to contain it." I was thinking about category romance in particular, but that's because I've read so many of them, and because this post was about two category romances.<br /><br />Since category romances have mostly been written by women, it might seem a bit tricky to think of them as reflecting male anxieties. On the other hand, one of the Boon brothers was convinced that what women wanted were alpha males, and presumably that belief will have affected his choices when it came to deciding which novels to publish. Jay Dixon mentions that there was a period before his time, in the aftermath of the First World War, when many Mills & Boon heroes were very boyish, perhaps reflecting many women's recollections of a lost generation of young men. Of course, E. M. Hull's rapist hero, <i>The Sheik</i> also dates from that period, so no doubt then, as now, different women had different preferences.<br /><br /><i>the rightness/naturalness of traditional masculinity</i><br /><br />It seems to me that ideals about masculinity have changed quite a lot over the years. The Victorian ideal of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_Christianity" rel="nofollow">muscular Christian</a> male, who is chivalrous in his attitude towards women, for example, is very different from the James Bond style of masculinity.Laura Vivancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00906661869372622821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-37363086335913408852012-11-30T20:35:28.299-05:002012-11-30T20:35:28.299-05:00I'm intrigued by your phrase "the way mas...I'm intrigued by your phrase "the way masculinity is constructed as dangerous to women." Who is doing the constructing? Society at the time? And thus Lamb and other writers mirror that construction in their books, even while working to contain it? Or by category romance in particular?<br /><br />I've been wondering if in some ways such books can be read a reflection of historically specific male anxiety? A worry that women might, after being exposed to the insights of second-wave feminism, prefer the "weaker" man, the one that men have grown up being told they shouldn't be? Teaching women through romance that the aggressive guy is, underneath it all, ok, might be reassuring to men trained to believe in the rightness/naturalness of traditional masculinity.Jackie C. Hornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-12238622831597234282012-11-30T20:15:24.934-05:002012-11-30T20:15:24.934-05:00I take your point, but at the same time I have the...I take your point, but at the same time I have the impression that virgin heroines from this period (or maybe a the 1970s?) quite often found a big, rich hero's sexuality both frightening and attractive. That's how you end up with the "I hate you, I hate you, I love you" plots. I think, too, there might be quite a few who're not described as being <b>afraid</b> of men like the hero, but who do start the novel engaged/involved with a smaller/weaker/less powerful man, with whom they're comfortable, prior to ending up with the bigger/stronger/richer/more assertive hero.<br /><br /><i>With the traditional Harlequin construct that insists the hero prove his love by losing sexual control, it becomes distressingly difficult to differentiate lover from rapist.</i><br /><br />I wonder if, in a way, this could be interpreted via a feminist lens as a statement about the way masculinity is constructed as dangerous to women, so that heterosexual women always end up "sleeping with the enemy" and heterosexual relationships are therefore mostly a case of finding a compromise solution. Charlotte Lamb's oevure is really quite complex and fascinating because she wrote quite a lot of novels in which the hero's behaviour is acknowledged to be unacceptable/destructive (e.g. extreme jealousy, lack of communication, obsessiveness, vindictiveness) and then shows him gradually managing to overcome those flaws to a degree. I get the impression that she meant the reader to feel both fascinated and somewhat repelled by these heroes. They're perhaps a bit like some of the 20th-century vampires in horror, who're attractive and seductive, yet horrifying. Or perhaps it might be better to say that part of their seductiveness/attraction actually stems from the fact that they're horrifying.<br /><br />Maybe that's just me "reading against the grain" from a 21st-century perspective, though.Laura Vivancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00906661869372622821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-202430303225060362012-11-30T19:50:27.471-05:002012-11-30T19:50:27.471-05:00Anna:
Yes, I agree that the majority of most popu...Anna:<br /><br />Yes, I agree that the majority of most popular works, including romances, reflect, rather than challenge, the current ideologies of the times in which they are published. And since we live in times when both feminist and reactionary discourses are both very much in play, it's not surprising that many romances embrace one and not the other, or contain aspects of both.<br /><br />That's part of the reason why I started this blog -- to try to move the critical conversation beyond assuming ALL romances are complicit with patriarchal discourses, or ALL inherently feminist because they take on issues important to women.Jackie C. Hornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-5442230957124994542012-11-30T19:44:05.368-05:002012-11-30T19:44:05.368-05:00Laura:
For today's reader, the first two quot...Laura:<br /><br />For today's reader, the first two quotes wouldn't necessarily indicate Kyla had been raped. I, too, think avoiding overly aggressive men is sensible. But most heroines in the Harlequins I remember from my 1980s reading seem to have the opposite reaction. That detail seemed striking to me in the context of early 1980s category romance, where the heroines almost always are drawn to the "big, aggressive" rich professional men, even against their wills. For a heroine to be described as AFRAID of such men, and preferring a man like Chris, whose sexuality is not at all compelling, seems a clear sign if not of having been raped, at the least of sexuality gone wrong in the Harlequin/Mills & Boon realm.Jackie C. Hornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04146684628443152376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-19218503117905578752012-11-30T16:59:26.163-05:002012-11-30T16:59:26.163-05:00Your closing comment reminded me of a conversation...Your closing comment reminded me of a conversation a friend and I had. We realised we both assumed romance novels in some way promote and further if no a feminist cause then at least a woman-positive one (er, can they be separate?). Certainly when I write I'm writing women who are heroes to me, and challenging what het sex looks like, and what roles and man and woman can play in a relationship. But as we were talking it dawned on us that a huge percentage of romance novels simply reflect the current paradigm rather than challenging it. Your two books seem like a good showcase of this. One reflect the contemporary views of rape, the other progresses them. Anna Cowanhttp://www.annacowan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630346294397505634.post-89039573545358668222012-11-30T12:02:15.300-05:002012-11-30T12:02:15.300-05:00The Loving Trap proves a far more satisfying read ...<i>The Loving Trap proves a far more satisfying read for the feminist reader</i><br /><br />I very definitely agree with this! I had to skim-read most of <i>Stranger in the Night</i> and even so I was absolutely furious with Macey.<br /><br /><i>Clair drops myriad hints about Kyla's past, hints that a 21st-century reader would surely pick up on: Kyla dislikes "big, aggressive men" like Marc, who, like most Harlequin heroes, is a wealthy, self-assured professional (11); she dates Chris, whose "very lack of masculine attraction was the chief quality that had attracted her to him" (25); she feels "panic shot through with sudden pleasure" when Marc kisses her (65). Would it take the 1980 reader far longer?</i><br /><br />I'm not sure why the first two quotes should/would be understood by the 21st-century reader as clues that Kyla had been raped. Despite the prevalence in romance of muscular heroes who are over 6 feet tall, many women prefer men with a different type of physique. And to my mind it just seems sensible to avoid men who seem "aggressive," because I'd read that as saying that she normally steers clear of men who give the impression they'd be abusive.<br /><br />The "lack of masculine attraction" thing, nowadays, might be taken as an indication that Kyla is attracted to men who are gender-queer/androgynous in appearance.Laura Vivancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00906661869372622821noreply@blogger.com